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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.mtpolitics.net/wp/2008/01/03/hypothetical-question/comment-page-1/#comment-49571</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP has addressed this at length somewhere else, but I can&#039;t find a link right now.  (I&#039;ll work on digging it up.) Names that come immediately to mind are Jennifer McKee and Gwen Florio.  There&#039;s the other reporter at the Trib whose name escapes me right now.

Abramoff said that he got everything they wanted from Burns&#039; committee, and everyone seemed to take him at his word and didn&#039;t even bother trying to uncover the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP has addressed this at length somewhere else, but I can&#8217;t find a link right now.  (I&#8217;ll work on digging it up.) Names that come immediately to mind are Jennifer McKee and Gwen Florio.  There&#8217;s the other reporter at the Trib whose name escapes me right now.</p>
<p>Abramoff said that he got everything they wanted from Burns&#8217; committee, and everyone seemed to take him at his word and didn&#8217;t even bother trying to uncover the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: David Crisp</title>
		<link>http://www.mtpolitics.net/wp/2008/01/03/hypothetical-question/comment-page-1/#comment-49570</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does your reference to reporters who &quot;carried water&quot; on these charges without doing research refer to anyone in particular? I can&#039;t recall any reporters who fit that description. My recollection is that a number of reporters did quite a bit of research on this without reporting anything that wasn&#039;t true. Please set me straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does your reference to reporters who &#8220;carried water&#8221; on these charges without doing research refer to anyone in particular? I can&#8217;t recall any reporters who fit that description. My recollection is that a number of reporters did quite a bit of research on this without reporting anything that wasn&#8217;t true. Please set me straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s not like I wasn’t intending on giving you full credit for saying that Burns had been indicted, just a few days before the election.&lt;/i&gt; 

I never said that.

Geez, when you call something a rumor, you are saying it&#039;s:

1: talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source

2: a statement or report current without known authority for its truth

(See, I have a dictionary, too.)

And when you link to said rumor, the reader can judge whether it&#039;s credible. That&#039;s an &quot;opinion.&quot; Blogs are full of &quot;opinions.&quot; Sometimes they are wrong.

I thought it had merit. Apparently it didn&#039;t. Oops. But I don&#039;t think it exonerates Burns. I don&#039;t think his burden has been &quot;lifted&quot; in any discernable way, other than folks who apparetly do want to tie their reputations with the former Senator. (Go for it!)

I&#039;ll gladly wear my reputation as someone who thought Burns was unethical and unfit for office and who thinks the better man won the 2006 election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s not like I wasn’t intending on giving you full credit for saying that Burns had been indicted, just a few days before the election.</i> </p>
<p>I never said that.</p>
<p>Geez, when you call something a rumor, you are saying it&#8217;s:</p>
<p>1: talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source</p>
<p>2: a statement or report current without known authority for its truth</p>
<p>(See, I have a dictionary, too.)</p>
<p>And when you link to said rumor, the reader can judge whether it&#8217;s credible. That&#8217;s an &#8220;opinion.&#8221; Blogs are full of &#8220;opinions.&#8221; Sometimes they are wrong.</p>
<p>I thought it had merit. Apparently it didn&#8217;t. Oops. But I don&#8217;t think it exonerates Burns. I don&#8217;t think his burden has been &#8220;lifted&#8221; in any discernable way, other than folks who apparetly do want to tie their reputations with the former Senator. (Go for it!)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll gladly wear my reputation as someone who thought Burns was unethical and unfit for office and who thinks the better man won the 2006 election.</p>
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		<title>By: goof houlihan</title>
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		<dc:creator>goof houlihan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing for me the dictionary I quoted is, next to the OED, the definitive one. 

I&#039;ve got one at the office and one at home, too. And the OED on line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing for me the dictionary I quoted is, next to the OED, the definitive one. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got one at the office and one at home, too. And the OED on line.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the DoJ had come out and said that the investigation of Conrad Burns showed that he was innocent, &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; would be an exoneration in the legal sense.  And also in the denotative sense, if you use most any dictionary aside from the one miraculously quoted above.

That the DoJ just, for whatever reason known only to the DoJ (because they&#039;re seemingly not telling), stopped investigating does not mean that Mr. Burns has been &#039;cleared&#039;, &#039;acquitted&#039; or even &#039;exonerated&#039;.  It means they&#039;ve stopped investigating.  

And if someone on the &lt;i&gt;sinestra&lt;/i&gt; side of blogging had tried to split this hair the way the &lt;i&gt;dextra&lt;/i&gt; side appears to be, I submit that the &lt;i&gt;dextra&lt;/i&gt; side would be all over that like white on rice.  

Or Burns on soft-money donations, whichever analogy you prefer.

Hypothetically speaking, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the DoJ had come out and said that the investigation of Conrad Burns showed that he was innocent, <i>that</i> would be an exoneration in the legal sense.  And also in the denotative sense, if you use most any dictionary aside from the one miraculously quoted above.</p>
<p>That the DoJ just, for whatever reason known only to the DoJ (because they&#8217;re seemingly not telling), stopped investigating does not mean that Mr. Burns has been &#8216;cleared&#8217;, &#8216;acquitted&#8217; or even &#8216;exonerated&#8217;.  It means they&#8217;ve stopped investigating.  </p>
<p>And if someone on the <i>sinestra</i> side of blogging had tried to split this hair the way the <i>dextra</i> side appears to be, I submit that the <i>dextra</i> side would be all over that like white on rice.  </p>
<p>Or Burns on soft-money donations, whichever analogy you prefer.</p>
<p>Hypothetically speaking, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: goof houlihan</title>
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		<dc:creator>goof houlihan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you did try a little personal attack in an attempt to avoid my point, I see. Here&#039;s the point again, in case you&#039;d like to respond to it:

“Well, here’s an interesting rumor that’s worth passing on to you: an indictment is waiting in the US Justice Department for our very own Conrad Burns.”

I don’t see any reference to opinion in that quote, Jay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you did try a little personal attack in an attempt to avoid my point, I see. Here&#8217;s the point again, in case you&#8217;d like to respond to it:</p>
<p>“Well, here’s an interesting rumor that’s worth passing on to you: an indictment is waiting in the US Justice Department for our very own Conrad Burns.”</p>
<p>I don’t see any reference to opinion in that quote, Jay.</p>
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		<title>By: goof houlihan</title>
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		<dc:creator>goof houlihan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got full credit, touchstone. Nothing sneaky or underhanded about posting the entire post with credit. 

It&#039;s not like I wasn&#039;t intending on giving you full credit for saying that Burns had been indicted, just a few days before the election. That was the point of the post, giving you the full credit. 

It was certainly clear I didn&#039;t claim the words as my own, either. And there&#039;s nothing sneaky or underhanded about my posting the entire post here, and crediting the author, or disingenuous, either. It&#039;s yours, forever, and anyone else&#039;s who archived it for future use.

And it&#039;s clear I didn&#039;t claim the post for my own, nope. It&#039;s clearly intended to credit &quot;touchstone&quot; for the whole sordid post.

But for anyone else to archive it for future reference, you can find it at this link:

  http://4and20blackbirds.wordpress.com/category/conrad-burns/page/3/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got full credit, touchstone. Nothing sneaky or underhanded about posting the entire post with credit. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like I wasn&#8217;t intending on giving you full credit for saying that Burns had been indicted, just a few days before the election. That was the point of the post, giving you the full credit. </p>
<p>It was certainly clear I didn&#8217;t claim the words as my own, either. And there&#8217;s nothing sneaky or underhanded about my posting the entire post here, and crediting the author, or disingenuous, either. It&#8217;s yours, forever, and anyone else&#8217;s who archived it for future use.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s clear I didn&#8217;t claim the post for my own, nope. It&#8217;s clearly intended to credit &#8220;touchstone&#8221; for the whole sordid post.</p>
<p>But for anyone else to archive it for future reference, you can find it at this link:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://4and20blackbirds.wordpress.com/category/conrad-burns/page/3/" rel="nofollow">http://4and20blackbirds.wordpress.com/category/conrad-burns/page/3/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Important Thing Is, He&#8217;s Gone &#171; Piece Of Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.mtpolitics.net/wp/2008/01/03/hypothetical-question/comment-page-1/#comment-49539</link>
		<dc:creator>The Important Thing Is, He&#8217;s Gone &#171; Piece Of Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] going on regarding Conrad Burns&#8217; &#8216;exoneration&#8217; - check them out here and here and here. Oh yeah - and here. There&#8217;s probably [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] going on regarding Conrad Burns&#8217; &#8216;exoneration&#8217; &#8211; check them out here and here and here. Oh yeah &#8211; and here. There&#8217;s probably [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t see any reference to opinion in that quote, Jay.&lt;/i&gt;

Copying the post without including the link, and then accusing me of failing to reference it is disingenuous, goof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t see any reference to opinion in that quote, Jay.</i></p>
<p>Copying the post without including the link, and then accusing me of failing to reference it is disingenuous, goof.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did link to an anonymous post, and I was even called out on that the same day I wrote it. 

However, given the subsequent revelations of the politicization of the DoJ,I&#039;m still not sure the rumor was false; we&#039;ll probably never know. Is the investigation over -- for now? Definitely. Is Burns innocent of the accusations I leveled against him? I don&#039;t believe it for a second.

Integrity and ethics are values I believe in and demand of my representatives. And I firmly believe Burns did not share those values. 

I regret that the post -- written more than a year ago -- has clouded that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did link to an anonymous post, and I was even called out on that the same day I wrote it. </p>
<p>However, given the subsequent revelations of the politicization of the DoJ,I&#8217;m still not sure the rumor was false; we&#8217;ll probably never know. Is the investigation over &#8212; for now? Definitely. Is Burns innocent of the accusations I leveled against him? I don&#8217;t believe it for a second.</p>
<p>Integrity and ethics are values I believe in and demand of my representatives. And I firmly believe Burns did not share those values. </p>
<p>I regret that the post &#8212; written more than a year ago &#8212; has clouded that issue.</p>
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